Does anybody here remember how great charlie faino was from 1970-1975. he lived off of action and raised a family doing so. he was unbeatable during this era and rarely lost. when urethane lanes came into play in 1976, charlie's full roller was not as effective and jeff kidder became the king. somebody asked who was better jeff or ernie. at their best kidder was, from 76 until his retirement in 81. he was the best in the country. ernie was never the best at any point in the sixties. of course the competition was much stronger in the sixties.